It's a question most of us in the people space don't ask out loud. When something's broken, we get the call. And the instinct is almost always the same: build something. A program. A course. A curriculum. But sometimes the problem isn't a skill gap. And when we lead with training anyway, we're not just solving the wrong problem. We're building the wrong thing. On April 14th at 11am PT / 2pm ET, Ashely Aguirre and I are sitting down with Tina Schust Robinson , Founder and CEO of WorkJoy, to dig into exactly this. Tina is a leadership strategist, executive coach, and author of "Developing Your Business Leaders: A Guide to Investing at All Levels." She works with organizations to treat leadership development as a real business strategy, not just a program calendar. We're not a podcast, we're a conversation. Our goal is to be practical, honest, and useful, whether you're in L&D, HR, or anywhere else on the people side of the house. Register here: https://luma.com/i56eg5s6 As always, you can expect: ✅ A practical and engaging conversation ✅ Networking with fellow L&D pros ✅ No recordings—just real-time connection and insight The Learning Leaders Collective is a place for people in the L&D community to connect and learn from each other through our free, monthly sessions.